Duck of death, 04 Aug 2022I don't think your reality "comprehension" matches reality, but you already kne... more I'm going to nitpick, and let you know that your starting sentence did not make sense. It was grammatically incorrect. So yeah, comprehension as I initially put it. And reading your following paragraph, it just shows how deluded you are. They put some ice cubes on it, it got wet, sprinkled with dust, and these people had to physically open/close it. No I would have expected it to survive those. But a drop would be fatal. And what do you know, it broke effortlessly. You're not seriously suggesting that a nick or drop is a rare possibility? Also, you cannot make any claims against this phone. You do NOT have one. You haven't tested one. All you're doing is making assumptions based on your bias towards brands, but not real-world products. Now, I'm not telling people to buy this product. I merely said, this "prototype" is actually superior to Samsung's. I designed it a decade ago. The challenge is to get a glass-complex that will bend, and to have it designed to resist pressure, vibration, drops. That could be done with a protruding lip to protect as much as the surface as possible, but all of these things are difficult to perfect in mass-production.

Kangal, 04 Aug 2022Frankly, I don't think your reading comprehension is upto standard. The "trend&qu... more I don't think your reality "comprehension" matches reality, but you already knew that, didn't you? Yes, THIS Huawei, the one we're calling vapour ware, is crazy fragile. Because it was only made to work for fake marketing on the internet. That does in no way mean a serious manufacturer, able to build and sell serious devices meant for serious use, does not exist. This is what a huge group of crazy volunteers put a Flip3 through during a six day marathon torture of a that properly built phone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF36-YiXrqE That was at 333,333 folds while submerging ice water, beach sand, vacuum cleaner dust and other things you should never do with any phone. They gave up trying to break it by putting it through all of those of hazardous elements while folding it at around 418,000 folds. Equalling around 12 years real world heavy usage. So they started dropping it on concrete until the screen finally broke after surviving sixteen drops. The vapour ware Huawei above isn't designed to survive any of what those people did to the Samsung phone, because it was never meant to be sold to consumers.

Duck of death, 02 Aug 2022What trend? Samsung is the only major Android brand growing this year. If Samsung had failed a... more Frankly, I don't think your reading comprehension is upto standard. The "trend" as I've mentioned was: Devices get smudges, they're slipperier, harder to hold, they're larger, have higher density, weigh more, they're built less durable, harder to repair, parts are more controlled, cost more to repair, more expensive to buy. And lastly people have less money. As for your opinion on the Samsung Fold 4, they're just that, your opinions. Frankly I prefer this design, and it has nothing to do with the brand. I've given my reasoning which no-one has rebutted. Until the technology is perfected to make this concept feasible for real-world conditions, I think I'll stick with regular flat/candy bar style smartphones.

Kangal, 02 Aug 2022Almost all phones are glass-metal-glass sandwich. People buy them because they don't hav... more What trend? Samsung is the only major Android brand growing this year. If Samsung had failed as bad as the plastic brands the market would have plummeted by over 20%. You can try all the selective half truths, they all miss critical variables to make the equations add up. Regarding the Rubrik's cube "case" you can put on this to protect the screen. It is so profoundly dumb, it only serve to underline what I am saying. This is a bad design, where the protection makes the phone a mess to handle, still with a plastic front and now as little cover display as the Z Fold 4. This is vapour ware that only looks good on photos.

Duck of death, 02 Aug 2022Here's a real REAL world experience when people use 1,400 dollar phones without cases: I ... more Almost all phones are glass-metal-glass sandwich. People buy them because they don't have much say, they're upto the whims of what the OEMs think is acceptable. And yes lots of people use cases, especially on glass phones, but the scratching is not a concern. It's the shattering. Since these days people have less money, the devices are more expensive to buy, they are harder to repair, they cost more to repair, the devices are built less durable, they have higher density, they're larger, harder to hold, they're slipperier, and they get smudges. Older style devices like the ZTE Axon 7, OnePlus 5t, iPhone 6S+ and iPhone 7. They're much more durable than Samsung S8+, OnePlus 7, iPhone 8+ and iPhone XS. The trend is pretty clear.

Durga Bali, 01 Aug 2022I love this form factor than Samsung Fold. Also why Samsung unable to avoid crease in the midd... more Fold on inside of device = massive crease. Fold on outside of the device = minor crease. Not a fair comparison, Samsung's design choices make it the more difficult problem to solve.

Duck of death, 02 Aug 2022Here's a real REAL world experience when people use 1,400 dollar phones without cases: I ... more You don't seem to recognise, I've already told you twice that there's a case that works with the outward folding design, as shown in this article. If that's what people want then they would have one. I rest my case here.

Nick Tegrataker, 02 Aug 2022Why would you care how I use my phones? Like I said, if *you* wanted to use a case for this ki... more Here's a real REAL world experience when people use 1,400 dollar phones without cases: I personally don't use a case a lot on my S22U and the most common comment I get about my phone is, "you're crazy for not using a case!". If I got a dollar for every time I'd heard that I'd funded a "free" S23U. Your denial of reality isn't changing reality. People almost always put cases on glass phones because they always get scratched from careful daily use. That is the absolute unchangeable reason an outwards foldable phone will never become mainstream.

Duck of death, 01 Aug 2022"I don't", that is such a nonsense answer in this day and age. People with phon... more Why would you care how I use my phones? Like I said, if *you* wanted to use a case for this kind of device, you could do so as shown in the article.

Durga Bali, 01 Aug 2022I love this form factor than Samsung Fold. Also why Samsung unable to avoid crease in the midd... more Chinese technology seems to be superior than the Korean one. Thats why they cant get rid of crease.

I love this form factor than Samsung Fold. Also why Samsung unable to avoid crease in the middle where Huawei is able to?

Nick Tegrataker, 01 Aug 2022"Why do you buy cases and skins for your glass phones?" I don't, and I've... more "I don't", that is such a nonsense answer in this day and age. People with phones between one and two grand almost always buy cases or skins because they know glass scratches "everywhere" you place it. One grain of dust on a table will do that.

That case defeats the purpose of the foldable usability, as you have to do an extra unfloding step and have the case hanging out. I am sure in the future they will create more durable materials, but until that moment, that form factor shouldn't exist, maybe only as a concept.

Duck of death, 01 Aug 2022Why do you buy cases and skins for your glass phones? This is a dumb design no matter what ... more "Why do you buy cases and skins for your glass phones?" I don't, and I've seen many other people who use their phones naked. If you need one, though, the photos included in this article suggest that you can indeed use a case for a phone with this kind of design as well. Outward folding design lets you use the back cameras for selfie and vlogging purposes. It also allows for the chassis to be thinner when folded compared to inward folding one, making it easier to slip in your pocket while improving the ergonomics at the same time. Not to mention (theoretically) reduced manufacturing costs from omitting the secondary display as well as a less noticeable crease thanks to the larger bending radius. One huge downside is that plastic scratches easily and right now that's bad enough to nullify all the advantages that I described above. If I were to get a foldable phone right now then it would be either the one from Oppo from Samsung, because their current offerings do have the most logical design given the (lack of) durability of a polymer or UTG display. But I can always hope for the future where outward folding phones become the mainstream through a technological revolution.

Nick Tegrataker, 01 Aug 2022Vulnerability to microscratches is the only thing that is keeping this form factor from flouri... more Why do you buy cases and skins for your glass phones? This is a dumb design no matter what material they'd use. Which is why it isn't available to but in any stores. It is vapor ware in a weak attempt to steal some of Samsung's limelight next week.

Kangal, 01 Aug 2022I don't care what people say, this Huawei phone, this form-factor, is much much better th... more Vulnerability to microscratches is the only thing that is keeping this form factor from flourishing. I bet if some company manages to come up with a flexible material that is just as scratch resistant as a glass panel, everyone will immediately start jumping onto outward folding mechanisms which naturally provide superior usability to inward folding ones. But until then, inward folding devices remain more practical, which is a bit unfortunate.

NickValok, 31 Jul 2022The phone that folds in the opposite direction may look prettier on the outside, but who prote... more The wider bending radius is definitely a good thing for a flexible display as it spreads out the stress across the wider area. This is why all companies but Samsung use a mechanism where the display forms a teardrop shape when closed for their inward-folding devices.

I want to know whether this Mate Xs2 supports stylus, the same as its Chinese counterpart.

I don't care what people say, this Huawei phone, this form-factor, is much much better than the weird 3-screen Samsung Fold out there. I want the screen to fold-out, not to fold-in. When it folds-in, the angle is too narrow, crease is sharp, and there's too much pressure on the screen. On the outside, the diameter is much larger so you don't get creases. In fact, I made a concept of this device back in 2011. The issue for Huawei is to somehow get this device, with a GLASS substrate which will bend at that 360' hinge without snapping. I think Corning has a product for it, but none of the OEMs are willing to buy it. If I am paying LUXURY prices for a device, we're talking not USD$500 but more like USD$1,500... then I want the experience that comes with it. A Plastic Film feels smudgey (or glossy) under the fingers, and not smooth (or "cold") as all the other devices. And the picking up of small scratches is unacceptable at this price, not unless Huawei agrees to give me a new phone every 6 months or so.

Nice casing to protect screen in folded mode.

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